The benefit of sending it to the proxy is that in addition to being logless you are also being lumped in with tens of thousands of other people using the same IP (anonymity in numbers, your VPN also does a similar thing but with more security). W/ a proxy it gets sent already decrypted to the proxy server versus directly to it's destination (also decrypted). Proxy or no proxy, the data is going to get decrypted at the VPN server no matter what, the only difference is where that decrypted data goes when it leaves the VPN server. Oh a qbittorrent is bugged to hell where proxy and/or VPNs are Actually in that scenario you'd still be alright torrenting. The VPN is by far the most important part but using a proxy will get you a bit more protection albeit at likely slow speeds. TLDR conclusion: Running a VPN and proxy is perfectly safe. While using both is more secure, it does mean the data is getting bounced more and the socks5 proxy server is another opportunity for bottlenecking to occur. ****One caveat though is that running both can potentially slow your connection and not because of packet issues. I've yet to see a VPN that doesn't offer a kill switch option in the settings. ![]() Since a proxy isn't going to break your VPN to begin with, it's pointless to even add this but a kill switch is going to prevent your torrent client from operating in the clear (assuming there's no router fwd). The proxy acting on it's own isn't great but better than no protection at all which is what you would have in this scenario if you weren't running both in tandem. If your VPN fails for some unrelated reason, the torrent client is still directing all your data to the logless (?) proxy server.You can argue that it could theoretically harm data itself but in this use case - it won't. In short it cannot harm your privacy that way. Encapsulation of the data by the SOCKS5 protocol is a non-issue, it has a net-zero effect on the VPN. The proxy is a go between, it's in no way significantly taxing to the VPN. From the VPNs standpoint, Sending data to the proxy server is functionally no different that sending it anywhere else.The idea that using both is worse and is going to make it more likely to break is incorrect for 3 reasons Incoming data works the same way except in reverse and in that case the data gets encrypted at the VPN server and then decrypted once it gets to your machine. ![]() Here's what happens when you want to download a torrent w/both Your computer get's ready to send the request to a proxy server the vpn client (which is between all your incoming/outgoing data) encrypts the request from your computer's end the fully encrypted data is sent from your machine, through your ISP, to you're VPN providers server Data is decrypted at VPN server and request is sent to the proxy server proxy server get's request, authenticates the connection, and sends it on to it's final destination. A vpn + proxy together works as a tunnel within a tunnel, think of the inner tunnel being the proxy and the outer being the vpn. Your original thought that it adds an added layer of protection was correct. I don't want to seem like I'm attacking them but what they're concerned about simply doesn't happen. *****One note before I dive into this, qbittorrent has some serious bugs that mess with proxy and vpn use (sometimes together, sometimes on their own) which is the cause of most issues people for the record, what is saying about more points of failure is complete nonsense in this context. Want to back this issue? Post a bounty on it! We accept bounties via Bountysource. Other times it seems as if it doesn't matter what the settings are, it just won't work. After waiting a while without success, I usually end up playing around with the following options: (1) Port used for incoming connections (2) Use UPnP / NAT-PMP port forwarding from my router and (3) Disable connections not supported by proxies. Disable connections not supported by proxies.Use UPnP / NAT-PMP port forwarding from my router. ![]() I understand that it obviously should take longer if I disable connections not supported by proxies, but it still takes forever even when I disable that option. Sometimes it won't start downloading, even if I wait over an hour. My client takes a really, really long time to detect seeds and start downloading while running a VPN and proxy. QBittorrent v3.3.13 on Windows 10 64-bit What is the problem: QBittorrent version and Operating System:
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